A Discussion on Sex with a Futanari Lover and a Female Lover

63-1. A Discussion Forum on Sex Between Futanari Lovers and Female Lovers

"There's one theme I've been mulling over for a long time.

"Whether it's all right for Haru, Yuria, and the other futanari lovers to have sex with Kanan and the rest… my female lovers.

"I had sex with Haru and Yuria, and through that I reached a conclusion on this theme, so I'd like to share it with everyone.

"To start with the conclusion: I think it's fine to have sex.

"That's all."

I led off by stating the conclusion first.

"… Are you sure? If that's truly what you want, Naoto, then it's fine, but…

"Still, if it bothers you even a little, both Haru and I will hold back. If you put our wish to have sex with girls on the scale against the wish to never upset you in the slightest, you weigh more, by far."

"Mn, I feel the same way. If Naoto-kun has even a sliver of objection… I don't mind being a virgin for the rest of my life."

"Indeed. If you want it, Naoto, I don't mind reverting to being a girl, either."

The two of them spoke from the heart, thinking only of me.

"Yuria, that's not it. I want everyone to do what they themselves want.

"You looked up to a Master and decided you wanted to become one yourself, Yuria. I'm happier when you treasure that feeling. It would actually upset me if you abandoned that dream just to suit my preferences."

"… I'm sorry. You really are like that, aren't you? I'll retract the bit about reverting to being a girl.

"But I have absolutely no problem with refraining from sex with girls for the rest of my life."

"… Mn.

"Now that I know the two of you really are thinking about what I want, I tried, just as seriously, to ask my own heart what it really wanted.

"Jealousy isn't entirely absent. Doesn't that mean I do find it disagreeable? That kind of thing crossed my mind.

"Well, in any case, the conclusion is what I said at the start.

"It comes down to whether, deep in my chest, in my heart, I think 'I don't want this.' That's all there is to it. If, no matter how deep I dig, I don't find it disagreeable, then it really isn't disagreeable.

"There's no logic to it at all.

"Sure, some people would hate it. People with a strong streak of possessiveness, especially.

"But I don't hate it. That's all this is.

"That said, I did agonize and think it through and arm myself with all sorts of arguments, so please, hear me out.

"Or rather, anyone who thinks 'if Naoto's reached that conclusion, that's good enough for me' doesn't really need to listen. Browser-back away."

"Browser?"

My web reference didn't land with anyone. The Japanese contingent should at least get it, right?

Or maybe not, if they didn't read web novels.

"First, I had sex with Haru, with Yuria. I took both of their virginities… and creampied them deep inside.

"From the tip of their heads to the tips of their toes, breasts and pussies and every nook of their bodies, Haru and Yuria are completely my possessions now. Right?"

"Of course. My heart and my body are all Naoto-kun's."

"Indeed. Body and soul, all of me is yours."

The two agreed with my words.

"That includes their cocks, of course. They're mine."

"Of course!" "Indeed!"

The two agreed forcefully.

"I think so too. Body and soul, you're completely mine, which means your bodies are mine too.

"My body having sex with my lovers… there's no problem with that at all."

"… I see. If that's how you feel, then fine, but…"

Yuria seemed to be on board, when…

"That's reason number one."

"Eh? … There's more?"

She looked exasperated at my words.

"There are tons. I'm going to lay all of them out, even though it'll be long, to show you that this is a conclusion I've thought through seriously."

"… It really is going to be long, isn't it? I'm starting to feel that 'if you're fine with it, that's fine' really would have been enough.

"… But since you've thought hard about this for our sakes, Naoto, I'll take responsibility and listen to all of it."

"Thank you.

"Reason number two: to begin with, when I saw Yuria and Haru naked, I was, well… insanely turned on.

"Such cute girls, and yet they have a boy's cock between their legs, isn't that mind-blowingly erotic?! That sort of thing. I was incredibly excited.

"But I think part of why I got excited like that included wanting to see the two of them having sex with girls.

"When I watch sex between a man and a woman, the woman's bare body being erotic is fine, but the man's bare body just gets in the way. I don't want to see it.

"But when Yuria or Haru is having sex with a girl, that's a girl with an erotic body having sex with another girl with an erotic body, so there's no part of the picture I don't want to see. I think it's fantastic! Wonderful.

"… So then, who should Yuria and Haru have sex with?

"Some random prostitute off the street?

"Don't make me laugh. The notion of my beloved having sex with some weird woman I don't want to have sex with myself is unthinkable.

"… The only ones suitable as sexual partners for the people I love are the other lovers I also love.

"At their most beautiful, at their most erotic, at their most pleasurable.

"… And that's why the only suitable sexual partners for Yuria and Haru are my lovers."

"… Haa."

I could tell everyone was a bit overwhelmed by the weight of how I was holding forth, but I decided to keep blasting through.

"Reason number three.

"It's pretty rare for a man with a harem to dislike seeing his lovers fooling around with each other. Normally, harem members getting along well is something to be glad about.

"Sure, there are some hardcore possessive types who'd say lovers being too friendly behind the man's back is cheating, unforgivable, but I don't think that way.

"I think it's fine if they're so close they're rubbing those parts together in earnest yuri sex.

"If we're going that far, then since I already recognize futanari not as men but as girls who happen to have a cock, this falls within the range of yuri sex, so I think it's a yes."

I took a sip of my drink, caught my breath, and went on.

"Reason number four.

"Or rather, a counterargument. I've laid out all these reasons it's all right, but if Haru actually had sex with Kanan…

"If my beloved Kanan got made to cum by Haru's cock and creampied inside, I think I'd be jealous.

"Which would mean I do hate the idea, right? That's why I gave it this much thought.

"But… what even is the relationship between jealousy and arousal? Being jealous makes the arousal stronger.

"This kind of thing might be called a netorare kink.

"The image of someone you love being held by someone other than yourself… it's a little, no, quite a bit, exciting.

"And next, I think the heat of 'I'll overwrite that pleasure!' would kick in too.

"Of course, if it were Ishiguro, Noda, or Nezu, men I hate, anger and hatred would turn into bloodlust, and arousal would be the last thing on my mind, but if it's my beloved Haru and Yuria, only enjoyment would remain.

"So that means even my netorare leanings get satisfied efficiently.

"To begin with, I don't have that mindset of 'a woman who's been with someone else is dirty or tainted.'

"It's not absolutely zero, maybe, but it's faint.

"Once Ursula joins us, Cellas and the rest of Ursula's companions will become my companions too.

"They've been having sex with Ursula, but… I can't bring myself to think of them as dirty at all.

"If we can have sex, I'll happily have sex.

"Lastly…

"I tell you all 'I'm not your Goshujin-sama, you're not slaves' because you have the right to leave whenever you grow tired of this. That's how I see it.

"Precisely because you have the freedom to leave, I'm happy that you stay by my side because you want to.

"If you were slaves with no will of your own, I wouldn't be happy even if you stayed.

"I'd actually be happier with girls who can pressure me with 'love me or I'll get fed up with you.'

"It makes the loving worthwhile.

"For all of you to grow that strong, I think it's actually preferable that there be people other than me who love you, too. And on top of that, I'd want you to choose me. I want to be the kind of self that gets chosen.

"… That's the end of my feelings, the spiritual side. From here on it's a slightly different topic."

"You said 'lastly' just now…"

"Lastly for the spiritual side."

Everyone gave up and settled back into listening posture.

"First, the common sense of this world is… actually, having someone else hold your Garumon is the norm here.

"The reason is how hard it is for a Garumon to get pregnant. To get the body ready for pregnancy, you have to have sex thousands of times.

"The other reason is that a Master's semen is densely packed with mana useful to a Garumon, so having sex slightly raises a Garumon's mana and provides a strengthening effect; the more sex, the stronger they get."

"That's correct. As I mentioned before, regarding the type of criminal punishment where convicts are endlessly drained of their semen, simply being a Master generates demand.

"What G-Class Masters who lose and drop into H-Class as slaves do, mostly, is exactly that kind of work where they're drained of their semen.

"It's called a semen-extraction parlor.

"Many slave Masters are stationed there, and Masters bring their own Garumon in to be held by the slave Masters.

"Then they wait until the body is ready for pregnancy and have the Master impregnate her. That's a generally accepted practice in this world.

"Of course, there's no shortage of Masters who find it distasteful…

"Cheap semen-extraction parlors are used only by lower-rank Masters; slave Masters' semen is poor quality, so among the nobility, the more common arrangement is to have one's knights hold the Garumon. A C-Class Master's semen is fairly high quality, after all.

"This is one reason why the knights of the nobility are so popular."

"… Mn. As Lyuka explained, that's the worldview of this world.

"… Of course, if it were a worldview I genuinely couldn't accept, I wouldn't intend to accept it, so 'because this world says so' isn't really decisive in itself.

"I think it's also why Lyuka, Yuria, all of you born and raised in this world, treasure my values above all else.

"But I, too, made up my mind to spend the rest of my life in this world. I'm a resident of this world.

"Completely disregarding this world's values feels wrong, I think.

"And then, more simply… it's a question of stamina.

"I've now reached A-Class and become able to have sex forty times a day.

"… That sounds like a lot at first glance, but split between the thirteen of us we have right now, it's three times each per day.

"I think you all are happy enough being satisfied with three times a day…

"But I don't intend to leave the headcount where it is.

"It will keep growing. When I reach S-Class, it'll go up to twenty-four.

"And actually, by leveraging the system of knights, I can keep adding companions without limit.

"Even if I reach S-Class, hit HP 40, and can have sex fifty times a day, if my companions number sixty or seventy, I won't be able to do it even once a day with each.

"Leaving my companions stewing in frustration is just sad, isn't it?

"The way to satisfy them, I think, is to have my knights and Sub-Masters reliably have sex with the companions assigned to them.

"From now on, when Ursula joins us, Ursula's companions… Cellas, Saria, Mira, Libera, Mikoto, and Ursula herself are free to keep having sex with each other.

"'You're my companion now, all your companions are my possessions, so I don't permit them having sex with my possessions on their own'… that's totally not in character for me.

"If I did that, when Ursula became my companion, she'd be torn away from her existing lovers and end up unhappier than before. I won't allow that.

"For someone who becomes my companion, it won't sit right with me unless they get happier than they were before.

"They get to keep having sex with the girls they've been with, plus more cute girls to have sex with, and of course they have sex with me too… and they have sex with Yuria and Haru.

"In that way, I want to dote on them lavishly, give them feel-good experiences, let them have fun.

"… I think I've covered most of it."

• They're my beloved lovers, and we're one in body and soul, so there's no problem.

• They're girls together, so there's no problem. Even if they have a cock, no problem.

• It's erotic, I want to see it. I can only entrust the futanari to my beloved as their partner.

• It excites me on the netorare-kink front.

• None of you are slaves, so let's do as we please.

• This world's common sense says it's OK.

• Once the headcount grows further, one person can't manage it.

"… Roughly summarized, those are the main points."

"… Ah, are you done?"

Everyone looked a bit worn out.

"Next is forbidden territory. I've talked about what's good, but I want to talk about what's not."

"… Please go ahead."

Resignedly, they settled back into listening posture.

"Sex with a virgin.

"The question of whether it's fine for Haru or Yuria to be the first to have sex with Lyuka or Sawako.

"In Japan, there's a custom of treating virginity as sacred. Many people find value in being the first to touch what no one else has yet.

"… I, too, find value in it. So if possible, I want to be the first man a girl is intimate with.

"I started wondering: if I think 'I want a virgin, can't hand her over to Haru or Yuria,' doesn't that mean I'm secretly opposed to Haru and Yuria having sex with girls?

"But suppose someone who joins us going forward falls for Yuria, sincerely wants to be held by Yuria, and that's why she becomes our companion.

"And let's say she also says, since I'm Yuria's Master, that it's fine for her to do it with me too.

"In that case, I think the one who should have sex with her first should be Yuria.

"In other words, my 'I want to do it with a virgin' rule is, after all, a rule that prioritizes the girl's feelings.

"For a girl who likes me and wants to have sex with me, I should be the one to have sex with her first.

• The one to have sex first with a virgin is Naoto.

• However, if the girl wishes for someone else, that doesn't apply.

"… That's it for forbidden territory."

"… My ears are tired, but I roughly understand…"

Everyone was tired. But it still wasn't over.

"Given all that, I want to confirm with everyone once. First, Yuria and Haru, you do want to have sex with my lovers. Right?

"If you don't want to at all, the conversation changes completely."

"… Well, of course I do. They're all extraordinarily cute, sexy, charming girls.

"Even of any single one of them, I'd flat-out declare there isn't a single human who, having a cock, wouldn't want to have sex with her.

"Of course I want to. If I could, I'd want to do it with all of them."

Yuria answered frankly.

"I… mn, I'll be honest too. The truth is… I want to, yes.

"… I'm just specially in love with Naoto-kun, only Naoto-kun, but… in terms of sexuality I'm actually normal.

"It's not that I like men; the truth is I like girls.

"If I look at everyone with that kind of gaze… there isn't a single girl in this group who isn't attractive to me, who I wouldn't want to have sex with."

Haru, too, answered honestly.

"Mn, in that case, good.

"Everyone. I'd be happy if Yuria and Haru had sex with all of you. Given that, is there anyone willing to have sex with Yuria and Haru? Of course, I have no intention of forcing anyone who wants to be with no one but me.

"… I want to ask you all, one by one."

I put the question to them.

"… I'll answer first."

The first to stand up in response was Suzanne.

"If it's Onii-sama's wish, I'm sure everyone would want to bury their true feelings and respond accordingly. So this clever younger sister, by deliberately raising an opposing opinion first, is taking the consideration of making it easier for those inwardly resistant to speak honestly!

"I have no intention of having sex with anyone other than Onii-sama!"

… Having read my intention on two levels, Suzanne stated her position firmly.

"It's not that Haru and Yuria have no charm. But I want to always be the possession of the very best.

"If you want to have sex with me, defeat Onii-sama at his strongest formation by sheer skill.

"Not by mere fluke, not just by winning right now, but starting from a state of being weaker than Onii-sama in pure ability and, through your growth potential, surpassing Onii-sama, growing strong enough to keep winning against Onii-sama… if you reach that point, then it would be permitted! Of course, Onii-sama, you must defeat that person again and reclaim me. Hold to that spirit of mutual cultivation, you two!"

So Suzanne pronounced her verdict.

"That's…"

"That's a tough bar…"

The two wore defeated expressions.

"… You two lack the spirit. Putting on enough pressure to threaten to displace each other within the team is exactly how Onii-sama can hone his skills further!"

Suzanne told them.

"… You're right. Thinking 'this is to have sex with Suzanne,' I get fired up too. All right, I'll get serious and work hard. Let's both push ourselves, Haru."

"… M, mn."

The two seemed to have caught a bit of fire. Suzanne, in moments like this, was truly dependable.

"… Thank you, Suzanne. Of course, I respect Suzanne's choice.

"And I'll polish my skills too, to become the kind of strong Master Suzanne would choose.

"… How about you, Kanan?"

Kanan, looking somewhat worn, replied,

"… For me, well… Haru would be all right."

That was her answer.

"… I really do feel awful about what I did to Haru before…

"To imagine I'd have to serve a Goshujin-sama other than Naoto… thinking how miserable that would be makes me shudder.

"By now, I think of Haru like a younger sister or brother, really cute. To have forced that kind of suffering on him feels just terrible…

"If having sex with me would make him feel good, I'd happily do it for him."

So she said.

"… Well, on that subject, I'm grateful to Yuria for protecting precious Haru up to this point too… so Yuria's all right too.

"Phrased that way it sounds like I'd take anyone, but it's only Haru and Yuria.

"When Ursula joins us going forward, I haven't said it would be all right then."

"Mn, understood. Thank you, Kanan."

"… But for you, more than feeling guilty, it's… back when I was that pathetic Master, if you'd really put your mind to it, couldn't you have flipped our positions easily? That kind of frustration is what I feel.

"What a useless, spineless thing! Someone like me, you should have grabbed and forced into sucking it. I would've gladly started sucking on it right away, no question! Why didn't you do that?!"

"Eh, eeh…? No, that's a high bar. Yamagata was always near you, after all…"

The conversation veered a little.

"Adelia's fine with it if Goshujin-sama wishes it, nyaa. Adelia loves Haru and Yuria and lewd stuff too, nyaa."

"You're cute, Adelia."

I petted her, good girl, good girl.

"I think Naoto-kun's view is wonderful. I'd love to support it! Let me cooperate. I'll happily!"

"Thanks, Maika."

Maika gave an OK. As expected of her universal-love attitude. Maika might have been the closest in thinking to me.

"As for me… let's see. Maybe it's because I'm still a virgin… but only Naoto-san is fine.

"Yuria especially is no good for me."

That was Lyuka's opinion. Rare for a Garumon of this world.

"D, dislike… that's a phrasing that's a bit of a shock, you know…"

Yuria looked dejected.

Lyuka hesitated for an awkward moment…

"… It's only that I think of Yuria as a dear friend, so I don't want to enter a relationship with her as a man and woman."

"… Lyuka! How adorable!"

"So please stop that…"

Lyuka looked embarrassed.

"… I once had a husband, so… if Naoto-san wishes it that way, I don't mind.

"Both Haru-kun and Yuria-san are very charming…"

Leone smiled gently as she said it.

"I'm fine with it too. If it's Onii-chan's lover, I'd have sex with her.

"You originally were thinking of taking Onii-chan… Haru-san as my husband, weren't you?

"Planning to make him my brother-in-law and dote on him together."

"Together… well, that did end up being how it turned out."

"Because Onii-chan and I are siblings, if Onii-chan were a girl, I think she'd be like me.

"… So, the people Onii-chan would have sex with if Onii-chan were a girl, I'll do it in his place."

"… Thank you. Setsuna."

That's right. Setsuna had a point.

I really couldn't see myself becoming a beauty as much as Setsuna if I were turned female, but… well, when TS happens it seems some mysterious power can turn you into a beautiful girl, so maybe I would.

"For myself… so long as I'm doing it, I won't say I dislike it."

"Same for me."

Haru and Yuria offered their impressions.

"No, your honest feelings are fine. There's plenty of cases where doing it is fine but being done to is not.

"For me too, it's fine for me to put it in someone else's butt, but I'd hate to be on the receiving end."

"Mn, it's all right. If it's with Yuria…"

"Indeed, and I'm fine if it's with Haru. With Ursula too, in the future… probably, I think it'd be fine. Of course I won't do it until I get to a place where I think it's all right. Respecting our feelings is what you wish, isn't it, Naoto."

"Mn, exactly. Thank you, Haru, Yuria."

"Patty wants to have sex with Naoto-san sooner anyway, but…

"If it feels good, I love it, yes!

"I want to have a baby for you soon too, Naoto-san, yes.

"For that, having sex with Haru-san and Yuria-san is OK, yes!"

"But your mother, Patty, only ever did it with your father to make children, right.

"You don't have any longing for that…?"

"Not particularly, yes. I do think it took a while, though.

"But Papa, having tasted Mama's breasts, lamented that he wanted to drink them sooner.

"So Patty wants Naoto-san to drink her breasts soon, yes."

"… Mn, thank you, Patty."

"Au, au… I-I'm… still scared, so… I'm sorry."

"It's all right, Colette. Take your time thinking it over."

"M, me too… someone other than Naoto-kun, that's still a little…

"It's not that I don't like Haru-kun and Yuria-san… I'm sorry."

… Wait, Luna saying she's fine with me already is itself a hugely bold statement, though.

"… Um, Luna…"

"What?"

"… It's nothing. Thank you."

"For me, if it's a partner Kanan-sama has approved of, I don't mind!

"… Of course, the first should be Naoto, but…

"O, of course, as Kanan-sama's second slave, I should have sex with the first slave, that's all there is to it!

"That said, when are you going to have sex with me? … Are you going to? It's n, not that I want to, but I have my own mental preparations to make, you know!"

"Ah, mn, you're right…"

The topic shifted. The timing for sex with Sawako, huh… the question of what to do when she was already at LV50 from the start was tricky. When both of us were in the mood would be fine, of course, but…

Sawako already seemed to be in the mood. I wanted to too, but…

Well, "right now this instant" felt off too. Somehow.

"Um, after Lyuka, maybe?"

I tossed off an answer.

"E, eh?! Eh?! Got it! So once Lyuka reaches LV50, you have sex with her… and one week after that! Aah, I'm looking forward to it! … A-hem, w, well, I'm looking forward… gla… I'll be waiting, neck washed and all!"

Sawako got muddled trying to pick which insult to throw, and seemed to land on something incoherent.

I had made a sex appointment with Sawako.

"… Everyone, thank you, truly! … In that case, for our first time we should probably do it with Setsuna, huh."

If we were having sex on the premise of her being my female version, that might be how it would go.

"No, since it's your first time, it's fine to choose your favorite partner from those who just gave permission. Who'll you pick?"

I asked Haru and Yuria.

… But even so, Setsuna, maybe?

Haru and Yuria had been with Setsuna the whole time, so the one for whom they had been holding onto the strongest I want to do it feelings would be Setsuna…

The rest was up to the two of them to decide.